Consolidated List of Boberg Compatible 9mm Ammunition

Boberg's patented loading design is great for us and helps us by squeezing a longer barrel into a smaller package but some ammo that isn't manufactured up to specs may cause problems.  I don't consider this a flaw of the gun but rather a flaw in the ammo - You can't expect to put cheap tires on a Ferrari and still expect it to go 0 to 60 in 3 seconds.

 

The problem has been separation of the bullet from the casing because of inadequate crimping by the bullet manufacturer (remember most guns PUSH the next round into the barrel and thus don't have problems with bad crimps. The Boberg PULLS then PUSHES the next round into place.)  Plated ammunition is generally not able to be crimped very well.  The lead is too soft for the case mouth to get any decent tension on the bullet.  Full metal jacket or hollowpoint ammo, however, had a solid foundation for the case mouth to create tension during crimping.

 

I will update the list as people post more of their experiences - please try to be as specific as possible regarding Manufacturer, model, grain, FMJ/JHP, flat/round nose, etc.  All manufacturers are constantly updating manufacturing procedures when they identify deficiencies.  For failed ammo, if you can identify roughly when ammo was purchased, this info will be posted so as to not permanently blacklist any particular brand/model of ammo.  For me, however, I personally would not want to carry any ammo with questionable reliability in my gun as my life may depend on it in the future.

 

So from the posts I've seen so far and squinting at hard to read pics of boxes, here is the current list.  I have chosen to put all ammo with any reproducible issues in the incompatible list but some of these may still usable for practice or with swapping the trigger spring for a heavier one.  I would personally avoid regularly shooting ammo that separates because it is a pain to clean out and the loose gunpowder flies right into your face.  Regarding separation malfunctions, Arne is working on a 4.2" barrel that significantly reduces separations in case you want to use a particular ammo that has light crimps.

Disclaimer: Boberg Arms does not officially recommend any type of ammunition, nor does it guarantee the performance of any particular type of ammunition since we do not control the manufacturing of ammunition.  We highly recommend that you test-fire ammunition at the range before carrying it for self-defense.

 

Known Incompatible:

Atlanta Arms - any of their ammo (according to them)

Aguila 124gr FMJ (reported to jam 5-10% of the time, 1 hard primer report)

Bitterroot Valley Ammunition (BVAC reloads) 115gr (2 separations in 150 rounds)

Blazer Brass (5 separations in 6 magazines)

Black Hills +P 115gr (can be over-crimped - little case mouth for magazine to register on)

Blazer Aluminum Case (2 separations in 9 shots)

CorBon +P 115gr, 125gr JHP (separations and stovepipes)

Estate (possibly made in same factory as Federal Champion) (separations)

Federal Champion (separations in batches prior to summer of 2010 as well as 1/12)

Federal Range and Target 115gr FMJmultiple separations reported

Glaser (Dakota) reportedly crimps all their ammo subpar but note report below of specific grain compatibility

Hornady 125gr HAP (2 bullet shift/FTF in 21 rounds, improved after break-in)

Independence 115gr FMJ (2 separations in 2 magazines)

Independence 124gr FMJ (1 separation in a case of 50)

MagTech Guardian gold 115gr jhp that separated 1 in 7 times.

MFS Russian Zinc Plated Steel Case 115gr (extra rounds ejected)

Remington Golden Saber 147gr JHP(bullet shift reported)

Sellier and Bellot 115gr and 124gr (Hard Primers but works well with 7.5lb trigger spring or stronger, 1 reported FTF with fully loaded mag)

Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P (1 separation in 85 rounds)

Speer Lawman 115gr, 124gr FMJ (multiple reports of separations, FTF)

Tula Steelcase 115gr (Hard Primers)

Winchester Silver Tips 115gr (1 separation malfunction in a case of 50)
Winchester SXZ9 115gr JHP (FTF)

 

Known Compatible:

Aguila

     115gr FMJ

American Eagle

     115gr and 124gr (1 FTE reported) and 147gr FMJ

     Flat Point 115gr and 147gr FMJ

Black Hills

     115gr +P - see possible over crimp issue above

     124gr JHP

     124gr +P

     Subsonic 147gr JHP

Brown Bear

     115gr FMJ

Buffalo Bore

     +P 147gr

Corbon

     +P 90gr

     PowR Ball +P 100gr

     +P 115gr DPX

Federal

     Classic Hi Shok 115gr JHP (3 separations from an old 1990's batch)

     Guard Dog 105gr EFMJ

     Premium HST +P 124gr

     Premium Hydra-Shok 124 gr, 147gr JHP, 147gr +P

     Premium Personal Defense Hydra-Shok JHP 124gr, 135gr and 147gr

     Range and Target 115gr FMJ

Fiocci

     147gr JHP

     115gr FMJ

Georgia Arms

     "Canned Heat" 115gr FMJ

Glaser

     Pow'rBall 100gr +P JHP

Hirtenberger

     100gr JSP

Hornady

     Critical Defense 115gr FTX JHP

     Critical Duty 135gr +P

     TAP FPD 124gr and 147gr

     XTP 115gr

Liberty Ammunition

     Ultra Defense/USM4 50gr +P Fragmenting HP

Magtech

     147gr Flat FMC

     115gr FMJ

     First Defense 92.6gr Solid Copper Hollow Point

     Guardian Gold 115gr +P JHP

On Target

     115gr FMJ

PMC

     115gr JHP

     Bronze 115gr, 124gr FMJ

     124gr FMJ

ProLoad

     +P 124gr JHP

Prvi Partizan

     158gr FMJ

RBCD

     Performance Plus Platinum 60gr Total Fragmenting Soft Point

Remington

     Golden Saber 124gr JHP

     Golden Saber Bonded 124gr +P

     UMC 115gr MC and 124gr MC

     UMC Leadless 124gr and 147gr

     UMC Target 115gr MC and 124gr MC (1 report of FTF 10 rounds in 50)

RWS

     85gr Copper Matrix NTF

     124gr RN

Speer

     Gold Dot 124gr JHP or 147gr

     Gold Dot +P 147gr JHP

     Gold Dot GDHP 124gr    

     Gold Dot Short Barrel 124gr GDHP

 

Tulammo

     115gr Polymer-coated Steel Case FMJ (steel casing not recommended during break-in) 

 

Underwood

    115gr +P+ reported compatible but beware theoretical wear issues

 

Winchester:

     NATO 124gr, 147gr FMJ

     PDX1 Defender Bonded 124gr JHP +P (Partial separations reported - bullet shift prior to firing), 147gr OK

     Personal Protection 115gr and 147gr JHP

     Ranger 124gr, 127 +P

     Ranger Bonded 124gr +P

     SXT HP

     White Box 115gr and 124gr Bulk FMJ 
     

Wolf

     115gr FMJ

     Gold

 

 

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Hi guys, I am the NEWBIE.  I just finished putting the 400th round through my XR9.  I followed the list quite closely when I bought my first 800 rounds.  So far PMC Bronze, Remington UMC, & Fiocci.  Still have some Winchester nato & Hornady to cycle.  So far the PMC has worked  quite well for me.  The remington was quite dirty; and a cartridge hung up twice in my mag.   Fiocci was clean  but seemed eratic going down range.  I will get to the next batch next week.  I was the one that asked about Herters.  I am guessing that every state has somebody regional that supplies ammo.  Herters was a Minnesota name years back.  Didn't pick up a box to see where it was coming from.  My intent is to run 1000 rounds of compatible ammunition before I try something new.  When I get to that point, I will post it.  I've been following Arnie and the XR9 for a few years.  I finally pulled the pin on one that was made in Arnies shop. Great "piece" of machinery.

My intent is to run 1000 rounds of compatible ammunition before I try something new.

A very good decision that.

John s neska said:

Hi guys, I am the NEWBIE.  I just finished putting the 400th round through my XR9.  I followed the list quite closely when I bought my first 800 rounds.  So far PMC Bronze, Remington UMC, & Fiocci.  Still have some Winchester nato & Hornady to cycle.  So far the PMC has worked  quite well for me.  The remington was quite dirty; and a cartridge hung up twice in my mag.   Fiocci was clean  but seemed eratic going down range.  I will get to the next batch next week.  I was the one that asked about Herters.  I am guessing that every state has somebody regional that supplies ammo.  Herters was a Minnesota name years back.  Didn't pick up a box to see where it was coming from.  My intent is to run 1000 rounds of compatible ammunition before I try something new.  When I get to that point, I will post it.  I've been following Arnie and the XR9 for a few years.  I finally pulled the pin on one that was made in Arnies shop. Great "piece" of machinery.

You could do a lot worse sticking with the PMC Bronze -- one could argue that in many cases it will penetrate properly where hollow points cannot.  If you do try something new, make sure it is a narrow mouth hollow point.  I use Winchester PDX-1 +P -- it is harder to shoot, the few +P+ rounds I tried unmanageable.  Depends some on the shooter I am sure.  I don't shoot powerful rounds from small guns well.  My 10mm I can shoot monsters from (Double Tap 200 Grain 1400 fps rounds) because it is a big heavy gun.  The PDX-1 are a good compromise on the Shorty.  Manageable barely -- and not the hottest +P out there.  Sometimes I think I should just carry the PMC because I know it will penetrate and I only think the PDX-1 will.

Yesterday I shot 100 rounds of aguilla 115 g fmj
100 rounds of federal 115 g fmj RPT
100 rounds of American eagle 115 g fmj
No problem at all very accurate at 25 ft
I put in some blazer at the end and immediately separated!!

I've been shooting Fiocchi 124gr FMJTC in my XR9-S and it runs well.  NO SEPARATIONS in 650 rounds.  I think I've had four live round ejections and one misfeed with it.

I'm curious, did you shoot a total of 300 rounds without a cleaning or at least a snake pull through the barrel between ammo lots? Reason I'm asking is that I can't get good performance past 150 rounds without a pretty thorough cleaning.it

That is why I call the Bobergs superb SD guns but not great range guns.


Mark streitz said:
Yesterday I shot 100 rounds of aguilla 115 g fmj
100 rounds of federal 115 g fmj RPT
100 rounds of American eagle 115 g fmj
No problem at all very accurate at 25 ft
I put in some blazer at the end and immediately separated!!
With 2 shooters I've gone over 700 w/out issue no cleaning

I carry my XR9-s with a L barrel every day in my front pocket.  After turning out the horses and taking hay out of the loft I get about a tablespoon of hay dust in the pocket with the gun.  After removing the mag and blowing the dust out of the barrel, action and mag then racking the slide until dust stops drifting out of the gun, I make sure the first round is seated against the magazine stop and run the mag home.  I am getting NO malfunctions and would bet my life on this gun!  Don't forget to empty the tablespoon of hay dust out of my pocket.  I have about 1500 rounds of +P ammo through it so far and the action is a lot looser than when it came from the factory.  Accuracy is still there.  The more you use it, the better it gets. 

Jake Rodriguez said:

With 2 shooters I've gone over 700 w/out issue no cleaning
The most I've shot in one session is 200 rounds. But I don't think I have fired 150 without some type of failure. I have around 800-1000 rounds though it, don't remember the exact number.

I shot all the rounds without cleaning. The gun gets better as you shoot it. With that many rounds you should be doing well. especially with good ammo!

My XR9-S absolutely will not cycle HST. I tried 124gr, which failed miserably with 30-40% live round ejections. And the magazine kept dropping nearly every other round,which I still can't figure out, even after Mark sent me a replacement spring for the mag release. Last night I tried 147gr and gave up after 15 rounds, having four live round ejections and one misfeed.
After substantial break in period - over 500 rounds I now have well over 3000 rounds, probably 500 HST (124) and rest WWB and Aguila. No malfunctions of any kind. Mine will not however run 147 HST for unknown reason.

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