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The USMC is adopting a .45 ACP pistol for some units. The Karl Lippard Designs, Military Weapons Division, Pistol Automatic, Cal .45 CQBP Close Quarters Battle Pistol has been mentioned:

http://karllippard.com/military/CQBP.html

Yours for only $4,995. This pricing makes the the $995 Boberg Arms XR9-S or the $1069 Boberg Arms XR9-SO seem like a bargain! I hope that the XR45-micro will be priced a little lower than the CQBP, which appears to be an very attainable goal.

Make that XR45-micro handle the .45 ACP round and you can carry four of them for less than the cost of one CQBP. Probably not too much difference in weight, either. Those BDU pockets can hold a lot of Boberg Arms pocket pistols.

Since the CQBP is essentially a 7+1 round .45 ACP weapon, an XR design with corresponding round capacity and a 4 inch barrel should compare nicely in performance. An XR45-micro with an extended magazine and a longer barrel would be a good start.

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Gotta keep those pheasants away - they can be a nuisance! :-D

Hard to think that some fool in Military Ordinance in the USMC might actually shell out $4995 for the Lippard pistol. However, anything is possible.  

When the civilian version of the HK Mark 23 retails for $2310, I can only imagine what the military version costs...

I'm at least happy to see that "with instruction" you can use this .45ACP pistol for long range targets up to 650 yds. The ultimate 'QDSAS' (Quick Draw Side Arm Sniper).  Now the military can fill a nasty void, unless, say, someone develops what could come to be known as a Rifle with a Scope? 

Just think of the angle you must aim up at to get a .45 ACP to go 650 yards...

I am glad someone read this and caught that also. Confidence in your product's ability is good so long as it is verifiable.

Many would insist that long range with a .45 ACP is anything from 50 to 100 yards, not 650 yards. The maximum range of an M-16 is described as 600 yards:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080703223435AAAyXvr

Given the amount of drop possible for a weapon sighted for 25 yards where you can have a point of impact 15 inches low at 100-125 yards, then for 650 yards it appears that if you aim a few feet above the head then you might be able to shoot the target in the foot. One of the commentors in the forum below used a Hornady ballistic calculator to reach a similar conclusion:

http://www.shootersforum.com/handguns/68394-effective-range-45-a.html

The pistol may repeatably shoot tight groups and may have improved sights, but the short sight radius combined with it being fired hand-held tells me that even a puff of wind would put that bullet off-target well before 650 yards.

"The Lippard CQBP has its Frame, Slide and components forged with S7 Tool Steel giving the handgun a 150,000-rounds service life and full interchangeability of all parts and components for true "Drop In" service. S7 tool steel is hardened to 46 RC. In doing so it doesn't change tolerance"

I sincerely doubt that the frame and slide are forged. There is no practical way he could pay for the tooling, even at $5k a pop. And heat treating to 46 RHC? That doesn't seem like you are getting much benefit from the potential of S7, although I suppose the fatigue characteristics would be even better and allow for local peening and wear in.

Reading a little more on Lippard, it appears that the 650 yard claim is for "cover fire", while 400 yards is the claim for "aimed fire".

So, when people shoot pistols in the air to celebrate the New Year, are the people who get hit by the rounds at the end of the ballistic arc hit by "cover fire"?

Why do I have the image of a medieval helmeted Frenchman on a parapet yelling "I fire in your general direction"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA

Our tax dollars being wasted...

BTW, there's a difference between effective range as in "you have a decent chance of hitting an xyz target" and range as in "someone might get hurt at this range".  For example, one of my old reference books mentions a document case of a person killed by a .22 short bullet at 650 yards from the gun.  Not a very likely outcome, especially not nowadays with better medical care, but it did happen and it needs to be kept in mind.

This is why I scoff at all those European police agencies that have an official practice of firing "warning shots".  In other words, a shot intentionally aimed so you have no idea what it will hit when it reaches the end of its path.

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