well i have well over 1000 rounds through a pistol that was treated entirely with frog lube.

i am not a big frog lube advocate, never liked it. first off, it doesnt smell like frog, so wut the?

ya ever had a turkey hot dog? it doesn't smell like a hot dog... that stuff has always upset me.

at our last shot show, the frog lube guys were not far a way. the rep was looking at the XRs and when it came to the unlock block, he exclaimed... "i got something perfect for that" i told him i had already tried the frog lube, it did not work. he said they had a paste i had to try.

been there, done that. everyone had something that was going to work great on the unlock block. they all fell short. so the jar of paste got tossed into the bottom of the show bin and sat there for a few months...

one day i was digging through boxes... trying to find some dang staples... and i came across the jar of frog lube paste...

i had nothin going on. we had just finished testing a sixteen inch "ultra-long" barrel. it made the gun feel front heavy and made me walk funny, so no go.

the XR was cleaned thoroughly. unfortunately, frog lube will begin to "gunk up" when it mixes with petroleum based lubes as well as many others. so ya got to strip yer bully good.

i have been using the frog lube paste on the unlock block and the normal frog lube "oil" on rails and internals and the system has been running with no issue for a hair over 1K.you could use the frog lube paste throughout the entire system, following application instructions on the label.

this is significant as we have not really seen other lubes that will consistently work well at the unlock block/barrel interface. the availability of frog lube and many of its characteristics will surely be an attractive alternative to the very messy LPS anti-seize.

remember, only the frog lube PASTE will work as an alternative to the LPS all purpose anti-seize, used at the unlock block/barrel lug interface. using frog lube with other lubrication products will result in gumming and thickening.

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I can second Mark's enthusiasm here. I accidentally performed the same test. I am a big fan of the frog lube paste and after a very thorough cleaning, froglubed every thing I could reach. Two applications of the full deal with the heat applied and everything. I then re-assembled and simply forgot to apply the LPS. I took it out about a month later and put 100 rounds of Winchester White Box 230 FMJ though it without a single issue related to the unlock block. ( I still get the occasional live round ejection though).

I have successfully been using Sta Lube Anti-Seize Part No. SL3333. It is on the Consolidated List of Popular Cleaning/Lube Products here on the site. It is also $3 at Walmart

DONT forget! never let frog lube mix with any other type of lube.

i just spent 2 hours cleaning the cosmoline/cement like mixture, that occurs when you do this, from a coonan...

This is an antique thread. But I'll give it a crack anyway. Mark, I have just ordered frog lube paste and frog lube gel from Amazon. I see your admonition against mixing Frog lube paste with "any other type of lube." Presumably this does NOT apply to Frog lube paste, or is that also to be avoided?

Yes, you can freely mix the various forms of froglube, just don't mix them with petroleum based products.

Major: Thanks for your quick reply. I now see that I used "paste" rather than "gel" in my question re mixing of product. Obviously you caught my meaning anyway.

I'll give it a try next weekend and try to remember to report back here. I was about to send the barrel and lock block to Bond for a $300 retro coating upgrade. Now I can see if I even need to do that. I think Bobergs will ultimately be more valuable in original condition.

Luke, I use FL on everything and Its the best I've found. I inadvertently tried the experiment of using FL without LPS on the unlock block and lug because I simply forgot to re-apply the LPS after a complete FL application. That being said, my best guess is that the LPS is still superior, so if you have it, use it. The only situation where I would choose to omit the LPS would be if I was anticipating a very dirty, dusty environment where the LPS will hold abrasive contaminants but the FL does not seem to hold anything.

Have you compared the price of sending the barrel and unlock block directly to Robar for the NP3 application? That is what Bond is doing. Looking at their 2016 price list, I see an item for doing NP3 on "Internal parts of slide including barrel" for $70. This should include the barrel, unlock block and lots of other parts, or "Slide and internal parts, including barrel" for $170. I love NP3 as a finish on moving parts and I like the distinctive subdued look as well.

Let us know how this turns out.

Thanks again. I had thought Bond was using the Anderson Arms coating on their guns. RF85 see more at http://rf85.com/



Major Johnson said:

Luke, I use FL on everything and Its the best I've found. I inadvertently tried the experiment of using FL without LPS on the unlock block and lug because I simply forgot to re-apply the LPS after a complete FL application. That being said, my best guess is that the LPS is still superior, so if you have it, use it. The only situation where I would choose to omit the LPS would be if I was anticipating a very dirty, dusty environment where the LPS will hold abrasive contaminants but the FL does not seem to hold anything.

Have you compared the price of sending the barrel and unlock block directly to Robar for the NP3 application? That is what Bond is doing. Looking at their 2016 price list, I see an item for doing NP3 on "Internal parts of slide including barrel" for $70. This should include the barrel, unlock block and lots of other parts, or "Slide and internal parts, including barrel" for $170. I love NP3 as a finish on moving parts and I like the distinctive subdued look as well.

Let us know how this turns out.

I have not researched it in detail, but I was under the impression it was NP3, or at least was originally. They may also have changed coatings. Your information may be more current than mine.

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